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20 Years Later, Sibling Columbine Survivors Reflect

Apr 19, 2019
Originally published on April 19, 2019 9:09 am

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On the morning of April 20, 1999, 16-year-old sophomore Lauren Cartaya escaped quickly from Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo., after two students began opening fire.

Lauren's older brother, Zach, then a 17-year-old senior, hid for three hours in an empty classroom with his classmates. The gunmen killed 13 people and themselves in what was then considered the largest mass shooting at a high school.

At StoryCorps last month in Colorado, Lauren and Zach remembered that tragic day.

"When you pile 60 17-year-olds together in a small space, you're going to go through what everybody would expect: fear and tears and prayers," said Zach, now 37.

It was a serious situation, but they were still teenagers.

"As the minutes drag into hours, you start to become a 17-year-old again whether you like it or not," he said. "One of my friends was laughing and scared that she was going to die a virgin. A girl peed in Mr. Andres' thermos, and we never told him about it. We popped the ceiling tiles off, and we signed it in case we die."

Lauren, now 36, recalled waiting for her brother to get home. "You walked right by me like I was a ghost," she said.

"I was a ghost," he said. "I was just in a state of shock."

Then came the anger.

"That summer after Columbine happened, I played softball nonstop," Lauren said. "And I was so angry — I chewed so much bubble gum. I had 10 cavities."

Zach and Lauren had a hard time finding a healthy outlet for their emotions. "There's no real good way to express your anger," Zach said, "and it comes out in the weirdest places.

"I remember we would smoke cigarettes and pot in the men's room, and a Jefferson County police officer walked in and he's like, 'Are you smoking pot?' — and we looked at him dead eyed and said, 'What the f*** are you going to do about it?' And he pivoted and walked out the door."

The shooting wiped out the majority of Zach's recollection of his 1999 academic year. Lauren recalled a similar amnesia.

"After the shooting, I definitely blocked out a lot of life before that," she said.

That terror has stuck with Lauren, who now has three kids of her own to send to school. "This year it's just ... I have these dreams that are so vivid of me having to tell parents that their kids aren't coming out while I'm holding mine," she said.

"It never goes away," Zach said.

"Never," Lauren said.

The path to healing is long but necessary, Zach said.

"Recovery is a marathon and not a race, and you just have to keep running it," he said, remembering the words of his former principal, Frank DeAngelis. "So over 20 years, I had to let my anger go. Because if you don't let that anger go, it's going to consume you. And it's consumed way too many of us."

But, Lauren said, they're grateful to have each other's support.

"It's always good to have a brother that can relate. You definitely have given me strength to heal," she told Zach.

Today, Zach is co-founder of the Rebels Project, an organization that works with survivors of mass shootings.

Audio produced for Morning Edition by Mia Warren.

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STEVE INSKEEP, HOST:

And it's Friday, which is when we hear from StoryCorps. Tomorrow marks 20 years since Columbine, the school shooting, at the time, the deadliest school shooting on record. On April 20, 1999, two students opened fire at a high school in Littleton, Colo., killing 13 people and themselves.

Sophomore Lauren Cartaya escaped from the school quickly that morning, but her older brother Zach was stuck for three hours, hiding in a classroom. The siblings came to StoryCorps to recall that day.

ZACH CARTAYA: When you pile 60 17-year-olds together in a small space, you're going to go through what everybody would expect - fear and tears and prayers. But as the minutes drag into hours, you start to become a 17-year-old again, whether you like it or not. One of my friends was laughing and scared that she was going to die a virgin. A girl peed in Mr. Andres' (ph) thermos, and we never told him about it. We popped the ceiling tiles off, and we signed it in case we die. There was so much going on. I don't remember a lot of getting home.

LAUREN CARTAYA: I remember standing outside, waiting for you. You walked right by me like I was a ghost.

Z CARTAYA: I was a ghost. I was just in a state of shock.

L CARTAYA: That summer after Columbine happened, I played softball nonstop. And I was so angry. I chewed so much bubble gum, I had 10 cavities.

Z CARTAYA: There's no real good way to express your anger. And it comes out in the weirdest places. I remember we would smoke cigarettes and pot in the men's room. And a Jefferson County police officer walked in. And he's like, are you smoking pot? And we looked at him dead-eyed and said, what the [expletive] are you going to do about it? And he pivoted and walked out the door.

L CARTAYA: Yeah. You know, after the shooting, I definitely blocked out a lot of life before that.

Z CARTAYA: It eliminated most of that year for me, that academic year.

L CARTAYA: Yeah. I remember my 16th birthday - like, going and getting my driver's license. But that's it. I can't tell you anything that happened up until the time that I sat down, and I started taking a test and heard people screaming. And this year, it's just - I have these dreams that are so vivid of me, you know, having to tell parents that their kids aren't coming out while I'm holding mine.

Z CARTAYA: It never goes away.

L CARTAYA: Never.

Z CARTAYA: But recovery is a marathon and not a race. And you just have to keep running it. So over 20 years, I had to let my anger go because if you don't let that anger go, it's going to consume you. And it's consumed way too many of us.

L CARTAYA: Yeah. And it's always good to have a brother that can relate. You definitely have given me strength to heal.

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INSKEEP: That was Zach and Lauren Cartaya, survivors of the Columbine school shooting, which took place 20 years ago tomorrow. They sat for StoryCorps in Littleton, Colo. The interview will be archived, along with hundreds of thousands of others, at the American Folklife Center at the Library of Congress. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.